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    British & Irish Championships 2024

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    That’s frankly bizarre and unexpected. I don’t know what to make of it other than it yet again proves the BRC is scraping the barrel. Nothing wrong with the Grampian, Rallynuts etc. but they are most definitely ‘clubman’ events - even if they try and run another single extra stage for the BRC which will get barely enough entrants.

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    The Rallynuts (Severn Valley) used to be an ANCRO round - so approx 60-70 miles, and run in June in south Mid Wales. It's almost a different event nowadays....

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    It says they'll be "Longer, more challenging rallies" which sounds great... but how many entrants actually want that ?

    The events might not be Championship standard, but I guess they want to try something new. Also no Irish or Belgian events is sad, but not many want or can afford to travel overseas to compete anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    It says they'll be "Longer, more challenging rallies" which sounds great... but how many entrants actually want that ?

    The events might not be Championship standard, but I guess they want to try something new. Also no Irish or Belgian events is sad, but not many want or can afford to travel overseas to compete anyway.
    Dropping Belgium can only be a good thing. Great event but what is it doing on the BRITISH rally championship calendar? As many of us said this time last year it was pretty much an admission that we don’t have enough high quality events over here - not really the case if you juggle your calendar spots around though…

    It’s a shame the Down Rally couldn’t be included in Ulster’s place - that would have given a nice gap between Jim Clark-Down-Ceredigion, returning to the Grampian in the probable heat of August seems an odd choice

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    In my haste I didn’t actually read the press release while I was at work today

    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    It says they'll be "Longer, more challenging rallies" which sounds great... but how many entrants actually want that ?
    Rallynuts: “…the Builth Wells-based event has been re-named for its 50th anniversary and will offer a dynamic twist on its traditional format next year, offering up a longer and more challenging route which uses some of the best forest stages in the world.”

    I’m intrigued to hear where the extra mileage will be - there is far more stage km available in Hafren and Myherin that can’t always be squeezed into a 70km event - and also how much more than the interclub event it will be.

    Jim Clark: “…The legendary closed-road event will offer increased mileage for 2024, including a longer opening leg on Friday night…”

    Again, intrigued to find out where the extra mileage will be - hopefully some stages not used for a while like Bothwell would be nice.

    “… the perfect opportunity for a BRC duel.”

    You would hope the BRC had set their sights a bit higher than just two entrants fighting it out next year

    Grampian: “… the Grampian is based just outside of Aberdeen and will shift to a longer, two-day format with some exciting plans from rally organisers due to be revealed in the coming months.”

    More of the same, I take back my knee-jerk criticism from this morning, lets just see what actually transpires next year.

    Costs: “…the championship will also introduce a raft of new measures to assist in competitive costs, including the reduction of championship registration fees. Costs will be reduced by up to 66% to enter the British Rally Championship, with the National categories being slashed by a staggering 86%.”

    I wonder if this good enough to tempt drivers like Meirion Evans to the BRC as he was quite vocal about registrations at Rali Ceredigion. And maybe some returning names like Matt Edwards, Tom Cave etc.

    Media: “A revised media package will also be put into place in 2024…”

    Just hope they don’t mess with the Youtube coverage from this year, it was a massive improvement over 2022. Mark James on commentary please!

    And here’s the problem: “…At the same time of course, we have been rigorously looking at budgets to ensure the BRC is attainable for all…”

    I don’t see why it has to be attainable for all. F1 isn’t, British GT isn’t, BSB isn’t, ERC isn’t and they’re not worse because of it. Trying to make it ‘for all’ just dilutes what it could be and as we’ve seen in recent years ‘all’ ends up being four, five, six, maybe seven if you’re lucky. Clubmen who could just do the BTRDA, ARC or BHRC instead aren’t interested, international drivers aren’t interested and there’s very few left outside of that…

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    The Rallynuts (Severn Valley) used to be an ANCRO round - so approx 60-70 miles, and run in June in south Mid Wales. It's almost a different event nowadays....
    I will probably go to that one, missed it since the one which ran in November for various reasons. Unless we have an April heatwave!

    Will definitely go to Ceredigion again, and may go to the Cambrian this year as well as next so plenty of BRC action for us who live in Wales or the Marches

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    From a selfish/local POV am disappointed that Yorkshire once again has dropped off the calendar however suspect there wont be any tears shed at Trackrod Towers. NW Stages is a good add however is bi-annual so how is that going to fit with the Championship continuity? Just really surprised that a N.Ireland rally has not been added as Cronin amongst others was quite vocal this year in suggesting the addition of an Irish event would potentially encourage some more Irish crews to enter and Motorsport Ireland seem very supportive of their drivers at the moment.

    Interested in the Ceredigion date and how that fits in with the rumoured ERC status the organisers were looking for. Time will tell on that I trust.
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    Here's a throw back to 1999:

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    Round Event Date
    1 Vauxhall Rally of Wales 13-14 March
    2 Pirelli International Rally 24-25 April
    3 Scottish Rally 11-12 June
    4 Jim Clark Memorial Rally 2-4 July
    5 Stena Line Ulster Rally 30-31 July
    6 Manx International Rally 9-12 September

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    Here's a throw back to 1999:

    Calendar
    Round Event Date
    1 Vauxhall Rally of Wales 13-14 March
    2 Pirelli International Rally 24-25 April
    3 Scottish Rally 11-12 June
    4 Jim Clark Memorial Rally 2-4 July
    5 Stena Line Ulster Rally 30-31 July
    6 Manx International Rally 9-12 September
    I should have said that four of those events have either disappeared, or changed from what they were.

    Vauxhall Rally of Wales no longer exists.
    The Pirelli is now the Kielder Forest Rally run in June.
    The Scottish is a one day SRC round.
    The Manx International is now Rally Isle of Man, but hasn't been run since 2017.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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