WRC main class in 2025

[skarderud]

I don't think we have a total ban of new ICE cars in 2025, its to few normal cars available yet, but its coming.

If Hyundai quits, and only left is 1,5 manu, the world championship is dead anyway, and FIA don't have any else to do than set Rally2, evt a Rally2+, as top class.

They also have to quit the manufacturers "right" to homologate the cars, open up for serious private tuners to build cars, with some support from manus.

I hope i have wrong and 2 new manu's join, thats the best for wrc. But i don't hold my breath waiting.

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[AnttiL]

If Hyundai quits, and only left is 1,5 manu, the world championship is dead anyway, and FIA don't have any else to do than set Rally2, evt a Rally2+, as top class.

So then we have Toyota and M-Sport with Rally2 cars...(Skoda, VW and Citroen as well but without factory teams).

[rp]

So then we have Toyota and M-Sport with Rally2 cars...(Skoda, VW and Citroen as well but without factory teams).

Skoda and Citroën still has factory teams, but it´s an other question would they want to join the series anymore? Of course the situation would be also totally different if the top category Rally2.

[WRCStan]

They also have to quit the manufacturers "right" to homologate the cars, open up for serious private tuners to build cars, with some support from manus.

This has to come across the board before Rally1. 1x Rally3, 1x R-GT. is embarrassing. Entire system needs putting on its head.

Before someone wants to argue 'that's not rally' or 'it wasn't like that in my day' let me remind them that the winning manufacturer this year hasn't sold a single car or drive, nor even made one available for sale, for we have a constructor championship now and they are building competition race cars. They're not manufacturers!

Without manufacturer money, Rally1 is not sustainable, but Rally1 proves the sport has transformed away from being a manufacturer-centred universe. What an odd situation.

[AnttiL]

Skoda and Citroën still has factory teams, but it´s an other question would they want to join the series anymore? Of course the situation would be also totally different if the top category Rally2.

They do have departments who build and service rally cars, but can we say they have a factory team? Skoda supposedly supports Toksport directly, not sure if Citroen does the same to PH Sport or some other team.

[Gustav Andel]

The WRC should be inspired by the rules for LeMans. The designers have been given a lot of freedom and can choose the type of drive, the driven axles, the aero... They control everything by some coefficient, so the cars should ultimately be similarly powerful. The result will be a varied racing field and each car will have its strengths and weaknesses. And the manufacturers are fighting for applications....

[djip]

They do have departments who build and service rally cars, but can we say they have a factory team? Skoda supposedly supports Toksport directly, not sure if Citroen does the same to PH Sport or some other team.

Citroen (Stellantis) motorsport boss made a clear statement that they (Citren) will continue to support Yohan rossel next year - through PH sport and that they will keep developing the C3 for that purpose. If this is not factory spport, then what is it ? At least it is more than what we used to call "factory cars" way back then when it was developed/ran by importer and/or dealers teams.

[WRCStan]

They do have departments who build and service rally cars, but can we say they have a factory team? Skoda supposedly supports Toksport directly, not sure if Citroen does the same to PH Sport or some other team.

Citroen (Stellantis) motorsport boss made a clear statement that they (Citren) will continue to support Yohan rossel next year - through PH sport and that they will keep developing the C3 for that purpose. If this is not factory spport, then what is it ? At least it is more than what we used to call "factory cars" way back then when it was developed/ran by importer and/or dealers teams.

It's irrelevant as they're not invested as competitors.

Do they want to invest what's necessary to be at the table that decides the Rally1 rules? No.

[wyler]

"The dream would be to see such a car run on the Turini in the hands of Ragnotti's heir to fight in the WRC - then the FIA would have to revise the regulations to allow electric vehicles. So, gentlemen of the FIA, it is up to you to find the solution, we have found it."

Luca De Meo looks to WRC with Renault R5 3E. During the presentation of Renault's new models at the Paris Motor Show, the CEO of the French group, which made Volkswagen unbeatable in rallying, announced that he is thinking about the WRC.

"To conclude, I would like to reveal a little secret and a dream. We are almost there, I don't think we are far away. We are almost there to find the technical solution to make the rally car, we just have to find the space in the budgets, we just have to find the budget, if business goes better than expected, maybe we could afford to develop this project"

ita press (and pic of concept car): https://www.rallyeslalom.com/de-meo-...-la-fia-video/

[lmmjvss]

Wow that'd be awesome. Its so crazy to see these old rallying cars getting alive again in a cool way. Im starting to get interested in eléctric race cars haha take a look at the Lancia Delta whos going to debut this weekend in Nurburgring, for the world rallycross
https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/w...lta-evo-e-rx-/